Why Purchase a Useless “Money Making†Website from Mark Warren When You Could Make Your Own.
Many people have been emailing me asking about money making opportunities that actually work. People are tired of being scammed or convinced to purchase a product that simply does nothing for them.
My last several posts have focused on Mark Warren’s Websites and as I mentioned in my last post at least 35,000 people have been paying $9.00 a month for one of his prefab websites. They take a look at his demo or “free website†and think that if they purchase the product they will make some good passive income.
Part of the reason why people go with Mark warrren’s websites as opposed to making their own is simply because they believe him that its just to expensive and difficult to make your own. While it is time consuming and can be difficult to build a decent website or blog, it certainly isn’t expensive.
On markwarrenwebsites.com he lists the costs associated with building your own money making site. He gives these numbers:
A turn-key affiliate website worth $1097
User control panel to edit your website worth $3000
Website installation worth $300
Before I discuss the turnkey affiliate website and its value, I want to mention that the other two items on the list don’t cost you a dime when you sign up with ANY hosting provider.
Three thousand dollars for a control panel to edit your site?? What a lie!! Every single web hosting company in the world provides a control panel for you to edit and monitor your site as part of your hosting plan.
Web installation at $300? Well this would be true if someone actually installed a website for you. Mark Warren websites are generic templates that his team created and its all in one file that’s simply uploaded to your hosting server. This still may sound appealing to people but you need to remember that no one will ever see your site if its identical to 35,000 other sites. Also, most people building their own small sites do the installation themselves. All it takes is uploading a few files to your hosting server. The $3000 and $300 were obviously part of his overall marketing gimmick.
Many web hosting companies provide a simple website creation tool that allows you to build your own site. Some people use Microsoft Frontpage to build a website as well. Another option would be to download a free open-source website creation tool. I use KompoZer for some help in my web designs. It’s a free program that works just as well as Front Page and many people even like it better.
Also, you don’t have to build a site from scratch. I didn’t. There are many places online that provide simple yet free website templates. If you look at the bottom of my blog you will see that my design was created by Andreas Viklund. His website offers great designs for both websites and blogs and best of all they’re free. Remember, mark warren websites aren’t sophisticated at all. They contain just one page with very little content.
Whether or not you decide to use a Mark Warren website you are going to have to register your own domain name regardless. Most hosting providers offer free domain name registration when you sign up with their hosting plans. Another benefit to building your own website and not relying on one of Mark’s is that with an original website containing some useful content you could get your very own Google adsense code.
So how do I build my own simple website?
1. Decide on a name for your website or blog. For this step you could go to godaddy.com as they provide variations of names that have alredy been taken in case the name you want isn’t available. Once you find a name that’s available register it with the hosting provider of your choice.
2. Choose your own hosting provider that offers domain name registration included in the hosting plan. A good place to research hosting providers is webhostingjury.com. The reviews on the website are from the customers and they currently have reviews on over 500 hosting companies. Mark Warren uses dot5hosting for his own personal websites (not midphase) while I am currently using Servage.net.
3. Now that you have a domain name and hosting plan you’ll need a website template. Besides the work you’ll put in to create the content on your site, customizing your website template to your liking may require the most work.
As I mentioned above, there are many places to get a free template. If you want to build a relatively simple website then you’ll only need a simple template. AndreasViklund.com has nice assortment of free templates for either blogs or websites. You should also check out Opendesigns.org for hundreds of really cool and free website templates. These web templates are all open source projects hence they are free. In fact, WordPress, the blogging software that I am using, is also opensource and free. It’s amazing, when you think about the thousands of dollars that Mark Warren has people believe that they would need to pay to get a website on the web when in reality one could get everything except for the hosting free.
4. Once you’ve decided on a template and downloaded it to your computer you’ll need to customize it. For customizing and/or building websites the best free software out there (as far as I know) is KompoZer. Also an open-source product. Once you’ve downloaded and installed KompoZer you are ready to customize your template.
So how do we do this exactly?
Good question. If you are not planning on building a crazy 30 page or more website selling all sorts of products with a built in shopping cart application and whatever else you’ll find on high end sites, then you should be fine. Remember, you want to build something simple.
Before I begin, I want people to know that I am being extremely basic here. I don’t want people commenting about how I failed to explain how to add images, links, descriptions, or whatever. Customizing a site requires work and tons of trial and error. Adding affiliate links and Google adsense codes takes time to get it right. For specifics, the best thing is to do a Google search on how to modify or add to a specific part of your website.
Customizing your website
The key file for the homepage of your website is the index.html file and its this file that you would want to edit with your web editor tool. The best way to explain how to modify and upload a webpage to your website is to show how its done step by step. For this exercise, I’ve downloaded a fairly simple yet nice looking web template from Andreasviklund.com.
1. Open your KompoZer application and click on the index file for the website template you’ve downloaded. With the 1024px template you should see this in your KompoZer window (click on screenshot for larger image):
2. Edit any component of the page by replacing any text or image with your own:
3. Before we make any changes to other pages of the website, let’s make sure we are happy with the index file. Suppose you want to add a “Movies†page under “Downloads†in your sidebar. For this step do the following:
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1. Hit enter right after “Pictures†and type the word “Moviesâ€. Notice how the word “Movies†is smaller than “Pictures†this is because you haven’t created a link for it yet.
2. Highlight the word “Movies†and click on the link button on the toolbar at the top of the page.
3. Enter a name for your link and click on the ‘Ok’ button. In the example I named the link “movies.html†since this will link to a movies page once I’ve created one. I’ll explain that in more detail below. The text should now be larger and underlined.
4. Once you have the page the way you like it save it as your index.html file. You now have your home page and the template for your website is complete.
5. To create additional web pages open your index file again and modify the text to reflect the next page of your website. In my example, I customized the ‘Downloads’ page that exists on the sidebar and saved it as downloads.html. Also, make sure your ‘Downloads’ link on your sidebar for both your index.html page and your downloads.html page link appropriately as described in step 3. Now I should have two html files for this style website in my folder: index.html and downloads.html.
“Installing†or Uploading your website
Once you have your website the way you like it you can upload it to your web host. There are many different programs for uploading websites to your webhosts server. Like many web editing programs, KompoZer has a built feature to upload your completed website. For me, the easiest way to upload my website is to simply copy and paste the contents of my website’s folder on my computer to my webhost’s server folder. Here’s how:
1. Open the folder containing all your content for your website and copy all the files:
2. Now make sure that you have an address bar on the toolbar at the top of your folder and type in the link for your FTP server. It should be something like this: ftp://ftp.example.com/www where ‘example’ is to be replaced by the name of your hosting company.
3. If you’re using Windows XP, a log on screen should pop up asking for your logon information. Enter your username and password and click on the ‘Log On’ button.
4.Once you logged on, simply paste your contents to your ftp folder and your done.
5. Go to your web browser and type in the URL of your website. You new website should appear.
For the purpose of this exercise, I’ve uploaded a semi functional demo site. There are only three working pages (main page (index.html), downloads.html, and movies.html) to give you an idea of how your site should look if you’ve followed the steps above.
Please post a comment if you have any questions. The above steps should also help for people who have already purchased a useless mark warren website and want to modify it to include original content and an original template.
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I like your site. It’s very simple, but informative and honestly done to save the readers from online scams. I was about to signup for Mark Warren webites when I accidentally came across this page thru google search. I had to make a search everytime I feel like something online seems to good to be true. Thank you for the additional webpage building tutorial. You’ve given me another option for which I can improve my webpage. Thumbs up!
maika,
I’m happy that my information helped you and I appreciate the kind words and support. Thanks for the comment.
Hi Ari,
Have you been to empowerism.com and payitforward4profits.com? Please criticize them as there are lots of peeps claiming they made money with these yet they can’t show up any concrete proofs. I see that you have shrewdness over these type of moneymaking schemes and I want other readers of this site to be aware of them. I’m not claiming these sites are scams, I just want a third opinion from you. I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks and more power to your site.
Hi maika,
i’ve been getting requests from people to check out all types of products. I’ll see if I could get to those. thanks for the comment. thanks for the compliment.
Hi Ari,
I have read a number of websites and I must say that http://www.rommo.net is the best. Especailly, your review on this particular scam opened up my eyes. I will definately come back to read your reviews regularly.
Thanks for saving me from paying for this scam.
Korn (Thailand)
Thanks for the compliment. I’m happy you find my site helpful.
I honestly have to say, http://www.rommo.net is the best website I’ve read. Most blogs don’t come as close. You offer so much unique information that I actually bookmarked this site!
I just signed up for the pro package and paying for the course and web-page what recourse do you recommend for someone one who is interested in web-page advertizing but just needs help getting started.
help
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Hi Ari,
I fell for the Mark Warren scam, but since I’ve only had it just under a month, am asking for refunds from MidPhase, Mark Warren (via ClickBank) and my credit card company(if clickbank doesn’t do it for me). It wasn’t so much the crummy website that made me figure it out, although it isn’t real pretty or customizeable. It was the telemarketer who wanted to sell me “mentoring” for $2,800 so I could make money. I haven’t made a dime, and know I never will! That’s what really did it for me! I have some other ideas, and will try again with my own self-designed site in a few weeks. your site is wonderful, thanks for the info, and keep up the terrific work!
I’m just about in the same vote as kathy, and probably others as well. It looks as though I’m going contact my credit card company, as clickbank doesn’t seem to want to help.
Kath, let me and others know how you make out, okay. Take care.
Ari — It’s so rare to find an honest voice in the wilderness of internet commerce. Like others, I was just about to pull the trigger on Mark Warren’s program, but there were too many red flags. The testimonial pictures were too professional looking; and the copy for those testimonials all seem to be written in the same voice; and on, and on. When I decided to do some more research I came across your website and, thankfully, got the unvarnished truth using objective research and analysis. I wish there was a way to make money doing what you’re doing: Debunking the slick scam artists who prey on the naive. Thanks for your efforts. — Thad
I too am very grateful for this honest and convincing review. I was looking at Mark Warren’s program, but what made me come across this site was that I was looking for an actual example of the Mark Warren website. If anyone has a link or a screenshot I would be most grateful. The internet is so flooded with his ‘affiliates’ selling their souls with high praise of his ‘ebook'; I guess the impersonal nature of the internet allows people to be both more devious and foolish than they would if they were dealing face to face. His business plan makes it hard to find any honest reviews, or even stories from people like Kathy, who seems to be in dispute over the money-back guarantee? I’m interested in knowing what products the site is set up to sell, which are rumored to be e-books but I originally imagined to be products like you would find at Walmart, and after reading this site it seems their are no products advertised on the website at all? Anyone who links to his sales page is obviously a liar, but I would like someone to honestly tell me what the 40 dollars buys you, what ‘activating’ the website means, etc.
oh right and does anyone know what that entrepreneur article is all about? A link to the article?
Hi Ari, Robert, & Everyone!
I am pleased to tell you that I was able to get all of my money back except for the $21.95 domain name registration fee charged by MidPhase. I figure it’s a small price to pay for getting out of that scam!
I ran across another great place to learn about scams called Friends In Business, run by Lesley Fountain, who goes by the handle of MaaMaw. She gives good advice as do the members of her fourm area. I learned a bit from them and would advise that you might glean a bit more information on Mark Warren from there. I will say that not very much seems to be known about him though.
I’m dinking away with my idea and hoping to get the funds together to put things in motion soon. It’s rough for me financially at this time, which is why I was trying to do something to make some money. I still think it can be done, I just want to do it ethically and properly!
Kathy
Hi Erin and welocme. If you take a look at my post on How Mark Warren and the Ultimate Weatlh Package Makes money http://www.rommo.net/how-mark-warren-and-the-ultimate-wealth-package-makes-money/ you’ll see there that I provide a link to google search results containing a list of thousands of these Mark Warren Websites.
Here is the link to the search results http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%E2%80%9CHosting+by+midphase%E2%80%9D++%E2%80%9Cget+your+own+free+website%21%E2%80%9D
ignore the first result that comes up. The rest are all Mark Warren Websites.
The products on his websites are all “money-making” products sold through clickbank. Whenever someone purchase a worthless money making product from your website you make up to 75% commission. But no one will ever see your site. I discuss all this in the post I mentioned in this comment.
As for the entrepreneur article, there was no article. If there was he would have provided a link.
Kathy, thats great to hear. I am happy you got your money back.
As for making money online, I agree with you. I also believe it can be done but it takes a lot of work. You really need to know a lot. I am trying to implement some things cause I havent been really making any money online yet either. The online world is insane and it changes constantly.
I’ve dropped a few $$ with the Mark Warren system but have been haveing second thoughts especially after reading posts from your site and a few others but I’m curious as to why there’s links to the Ultimate Wealth program on your page if you dont support it?
Hi Ron, Good question. As far as I know I dont have link. Are you referring to a google ad on the page?
Yes, I saw it on one of the Google ads. Kathy said that she recovered all but $21. Do you know or if Kathy reads this how did she get her money back from the Ultimate Wealth purchase? Did she go through clickbank or her credit card company?
I plan on contacting Midphase today, as I’ve only been getting scam by this for a couple of weeks and enough is enough. Thank-You Ari for your honest reviews and I’m grateful that I found your site! I’m very interested in a work from home LEGITIMATE business not a get rich quick or easy money scam. Unfortunately I haven’t found such a thing yet but I’ve really only been looking for a couple of months. Have you heard anything about Notmlm.com?
Ari and Ron,
I contacted Clickbank to get the actual refunds from the Mark Warren Course: the course and the VIP package he “recommended” I buy. I then went directly to MidPhase by email, they sent a response asking me to call their toll free number to verify that I really did wish to cancel. I told them yes, so they credited my card within the week.
I think this is the best way to go as I contacted my credit card issuer first and they advised to go to the merchant directly. I already knew this from my past employment with Visa/MasterCard, but you sort-of forget it when dealing with someone unscrupulous like this Mark Warren thing. His stuff all says no refunds before 60 days, and I wasn’t willing to do that for obvious reasons. I read some advice from the Friends In Business Site suggesting to go directly to ClickBank on the actual “course”, and decided that going direct to MidPhase was also the best approach. It worked very well, and I’d advise anyone who gets stuck in this thing to do the same.
Ron, I hope this helps. Any more questions, let me know. I get email updates on this thread and will answer when I see them. Good Luck – I think you will be able to get some or all of your money back depending on how long you’ve had this junk!
Thanks Kathy and I’ve sent refund requests to MidPhase and Clickbank. I hope that I have the same sucess that you had in getting your $$$ back. Has anyone reading this heard of the not notmlm.com system? If so any comments?
Hi Kathy, thanks for posting the update. If you dont mind I would like to write a post with the information you presented in your comment above so people would know what to do.
Ron, as for finding a legitimate online business I am still out of luck. you could try this website I heard about recently called whydowork.com. I havent really explored it yet so use some caution. The good thing about the site is that its free to access the job page. I dont really know what type of jobs are listed as I havent registered.
As for notmlm.com, I started to look into it. I got skeptical right away when they started showing happy couple standing next to their fancy cars, homes, and helicopters. I dont know anything about the magazine that this guy is featured in. If i have time I’ll try to review it more in depth.
Ari, I would be delighted if you did the post with that information! I think everyone who finds your site will find this useful, even if it’s not regarding Mark Warren’s offering. I have a feeling there are a lot more similar scams out there. I feel a lot better being able to share what I learned so others might be able to recoup their losses like I did.
As I’ve said before, Ari, your site is most encouraging to those of us who have had the misfortune of falling for these scams. I admit I did, and was almost immediately sorry. I knew I wasted money on something that was ultimately (no pun intended) worthless. Yep, it should be called Mark Warren’s Ultimately Worthless Package!
I agree also that it is tough to make money online. I hope to be able to find something that works, but I have to be able to sleep at night. If I can’t provide something worthwhile to someone else, I couldn’t feel good about myself or what I was doing! I hope this site helps you, Ari, because I know it helps a lot of other people. Even if you only make enough to support the hosting on this site, it is enormously valuable to us. It will likely lead you to something that will make you the money you need based upon the goodwill you foster here. To me, that is like money in the bank!
Hi,
I purchased the $39.95 package from the Ultimate Wealth website as a try-out. I read the info he posted on the “members only” sections and then went on to the “create your website now or be doomed forever” bit. Even though I do not know much about websites, the domain names presented looked very fishy. So I stopped there for good and did not go ahead with the final info and accepting the charges for the wretched website. I shot an e-mail to this character Mark asking politely for my refund. Surely enough all the e-mails bounced back. Then I called the c.card company as my last resort.
I don’t know whether I will get my money back or not. I hope so. But I just wanted to thank you for the posts and for taking the time to expose Mark Warren for the rotten-soul scammer that he is.
Ari, Kathy and others,
Thanks to Kathy’s advice and the integrity of Clickbank and Midphase I finally received most of my money back from the Ultimate Wealth mistake but I was shocked to see that my Clickbank account actually had two sales. However, I doubt they came from the products that you’re forced to advertise. I bet it was from a link that I figured out how to do add to it that I used to replace the pitch for others to make the Ultimate mistake. I could probably contact Clickbank to find out for sure but I don’t really care. I’m just thankful for finding this site before I went any further with that venture. I did loose some advertising dollars but I just chalk that up to learning.
Ari, I asked you about NOTMLM.com but I found out that it’s a recruitment site for Liberty League International. I looked into them and found that they seem legitimate but it costs a lot of money to get started. They seem to have some good tools to help sell the programs but for personal reasons I had to pass. I’m beginning to think that the days of making a legitimate business from the internet have passed. Again thanks for making this forum available. BTW I found another site that you and others might be interested in while looking into these things its http://ripoffreport.com
Wishing you abundant prosperity,
Ron
Ron, thanks for the information.
I wouldnt give up on having a legitimate internet business just yet. I am working on some things and when I get my act together I would like to start posting about them. I’ll try to start from the beginning so people could get on board and try to build some sort of online money making thing instead of buying these bogus packages.
Thanks and please let me know when you get something going as I’ll be interested in investing.
thanks for the info. i was about to purchase the mark warren .
I did purchase the Ultimate Wealth Package, but was very confused at first because I was new to online business. I joined there Success team program, and
made $45,000 last year! I am offering no advertisment! I joined there success team and now I replaced an income and a job i hate. I have no personal interest involved, so why would I make this up? The only people who are skeptical are the same ones who try it out for 2 hours and give up. Your not going to get rich over night, this is going to take time, money, effort and business commitments, just like any other business. Your not going to make millions but you will be debt free and have a passive income. DON’T LISTEN TO THESE SKEPTICAL PEOPLE, WHY LISTEN TO SOMEBODY WHO ISN’T MAKING MONEY AND FAILING?. YOU CAN DO IT.
Many people know that the Ultimate Wealth system can work for a little while but sadly it works by taking advantage of others who are looking for a legitimate and ethical business who don’t know any better. This program only promotes its self and a few affiliates selected by the company so that the company makes money. I was contacted by a company a sales representative who confirmed what I’m saying in this thread and suggested that if I wanted to make any real money with the system that I needed to invest another $50K but after my reluctance was finally lowered to a one time good deal of $23K for their expert web design team to find me a product or service and show me how to market it. The Ultimate Wealth web site is the hook and that’s what you’re promoting. I’m confused when you say that your not going to make millions but the program you’re promoting advertises just the opposite. The system your so proud of is evil so don’t try to piss down my back and tell me it’s raining.
Steve thanks for posting a comment and joining this discussion.
I have to say that I agree with Ron. Its very easy to make money online if you are ready to mislead people.
What are you doing with the program that makes it work for you?
Ron, thanks for the reply. $23k? Wow that’s a lot of money.
WOW! Thank you for all the relative info. om the Mark Warren spiel. I knew there was more to the story than being presented. Wanted to investigate this guy when I found you! It appears that the only people who are making millions are the ones who “teach” you how to do the “work”. What is wrong with this picture? They just compile all the info. for you and then appears they sucker you for more money to complete the work. hmmmm. Appreciate everyone’s comments so we don’t get scammed out there when there are legitimate business’ out there to do.
P.S. Thank you so much for all the intel!! I saved you to my favorites! :0)
Hi Ari,
I love your site. Very informative and thanks for looking out for honest folks trying to make their life better. I did try Mark Warren’s Ultimate Wealth Package and immediately canceled it after finding your site and others about it being a scam in which I agree. I have also read your comments on Profit Lance and feel it may be of use to me as I am a baby in the online business. I wonder if you have an update on it though as the comments I saw were last updated in July.
Much appreciated!!!
Carmen
Hi Carmen,
i actually visited the members area for Profit Lance recently to see if there are any updates and I was surprised to see that there were.
First, the profit lance is not a get rich quick program its a marketing one. He shows you how to take advantage of certain niches to make money online. I am trying to implement the information I learned in the course to make money. Once I see if it works I will write a post about it. If you dont know anything about making money online and the different affiliate programs then his course will help you one step at a time. But he doesn’t go through all the affiliate programs. There are a lot of them.
Second, He actually includes some really nice looking website templates that you could download and use. He has a video as well showing you how to edit the information in the template to customize it accordingly. This is appropriate for the post above. Instead of buying a Mark warren website, the profit lance shows you how to make your own original site. But be aware that customizing your own site isnt foolproof. It takes some work.
Hey Ari,
Profit Lance sounds like what I’ve been looking for all along, someone to teach me the ends and out of the internet business. I’ve been on the site and will get started right away. Best of luck to you and I hope you do well because of your service to us here on your site. I’ll try to keep you updated on my progress.
Blessings to you!!!
Carmen
Its a good start but there is a lot more to making money online than what he teaches in the course. But if you dont know anything its a great way to learn about the different things. There is a ton of info and it could be extremely overwhelming. I have been active online for about a year now and I still cant get my head around the different oline strategies and programs and so on. An update would be appreciated. thanks for the feedback.
Thanks for all the info on Mark Warren’s system. I was thinking about purchasing it, but it seemed to good to be true. I had a live chat with a agent online, and she would never direct me to his site so that I could see for myself the products that were being sold. I decided to research some more when I came across your site. You saved me a lot of headaches. If anyone comes across any legitmate work at home jobs, please let me know.
Many blessings
Wanda
Thanks so much…..I had my credit card out ready to buy Mark Warren’s system. I also attempted to google Mark Warren and came across your site. It all makes sense to me now. Great job and keep up the good work.
Fantastic job that you’re doing. People like Mark Warren pollute the internet with their greed and lies. We need to try and create a coalition of people against such charlatens and then try and establish a collective spirit wherein we attempt to find a way to use the internet for small business purposes.
Yes, it’s important to expose liars like Mark Warren and company but now we should try to pool our resources and come up with ethical schemes that opens up the internet to ethical, entrepreneural individuals. That’s the next step.
I fell for the Mark Warren Ultimate Wealth Package the last week of July. Two months later, my website has made a whopping $21.75. You cannot be paid for anything under $40 so I’m sure I’ll never see that money! When you try to “activate” your web site, you’re led down a path that has you signing up for more services, all with a price. Between the package price, one year hosting with MidPhase($119), and $49.95 fee for ClickBank, I feel lucky to have only been taken for $210. The high pressure phone calls come next. You are told there is a limited number of people “invited” to join the “success team” and with mentoring you can make even more money. They tell you that they are calling to see if you qualify for the mentor program and to “weed out” the serious people from the “just curious”. To determine if you are serious they ask questions about your credit score, how many credit cards you have, how much credit card debt you owe and how much available credit you have. Then they tell you the mentor program will cost you money but I was never told how much. It probably depends on how much available credit you have. But, thanks to caller ID, I stopped answering their calls. When I signed up I believed that I would be selling products but the only thing you sell is their junk like Paid Surveys, Forex and more Ultimate Wealth packages. Google AdSense rejected my website 3 times and I gave up after that. In the Members Area you can download all kinds of ebooks filled with useless information, bad grammar and misspelling. I haven’t tried to get any of my money back, I feel that’s probably a lost cause after 2 months, but I have a MidPhase account good thru July 2008! The old phrase “Buyer Beware” is still good today and I’ve learned my lesson at a small price compared to some.
Hi Wanda, thanks for the compliment. I’m glad that I helped you.
Dre Sims, your welcome.
Kieran, its a great idea however its like dealing with all sorts of corruption. We simply lack the resources and manpower to tackle all these scams. They make money and we dont. So there’s nothing keeping them from coming out with more scams.
Hi Mary, thanks for sharing your experiences with everyone. Sorry you had to go through all that. It basically sounds like one big MLM operation. I didnt mention it in the post but thats what it is. You buy their product only to make money promoting other products. Sign up for mentoring and pay more money. Yep. Just like an MLM operation.
The other stuff you pointed out is interesting. First, I dont recall if I mentioned in my post reviewing the mark warren website that google would never accept your site into the adsense program. You need to have content on you site. Since markwarrenwebsites have no content Google isnt interested in approving the site for the program. Also, Google knows there are now 60,000 plus mark warren websites that are identical so it simply rejects these websites from the program. What I found interesting, and I think I mentioned this in my post reviewing his site, is that a lot of the websites come with a default google adsense on them. The code for the adsense belong to mark warren. So when a thousand people buy the site and dont bother changing the google adnsense code Mark Warren just makes more money. (That is if anyone ever sees the site in the first place.)
Second, I dont see why you cant cancel your midphase account. You dont need to hold on to it until July 08. YOu should be able to get a refund. If for some reason they refuse and you dont feel like pursuing it any futher then use the space that you have to build your own site.
Even though this thread is 8 months old, I found it on Oct 5th ’07, so I suppose others might also. I have an ironic experience to share about this story line.
First Ari, great job on Mark Warren. I was working up something similar, on a much smaller scale, for a Squidoo lens I’ll be putting up soon. Now, all I have to do is link to this great series. Also loved your review of ol’ Danny who’s been ‘scammed 37 times’. I’m going to go back thru your pages and click his link on each page I find it on
(so long as it’s a different page, you’ll get paid for my multiple clicks, right? And he’ll have to pay for each click? Multiple clicks from the same page doesn’t work but once, right?)
Anyway, back to the real purpose of this comment.
I ran across a Mark Warren’s LegitOnlineJobs page while doing some research for my granddaughter (don’t worry, I’ll get to UWP shortly). I just couldn’t believe what I was reading. Hundreds of Dollars a day typing ads. WOW! I had to see this for myself. I noted that the order was thru ClickBank, which meant I was 99.99% sure of getting my money back – and the price wasn’t all that much to begin with (under $50 + another $20 for the VIP area). So, I ordered just to see if the ad typing job was just really placing ezine and/or adsense ads. Sure enough…..
To make a long story short, I was hit with the free vs pro webpage – so I went along with the pro. I got my very expensive domain/hosting package (with another ‘Pro’ upgrade) thru midPhase (with their 30 day MBG). A total of over $166.00 for 12 months.
They wanted me to list my wonderful sales page (which has no way for a search engine to find it) with all the search engines for another $49.95 – which I did. So far that’s (rounded) $50 + $20 + $50 + $166 = what? $316?
I got access, downloaded all the manuals and free copies of all the regular over-used ebooks, etc.
The only access I had to the webpage was thru their interface to change the template and choose the three products (it came standard with the UWP, Forex and PaidSurveyProgram.) Even with FTP I couldn’t access the page source.
Believe it or not, they even put ‘commissions’ in my ClickBank account, not once but twice! What a way to make people believe the site was actually working. A $7 & a $10 deposit – still sitting there. Along with the commission I earned by ordering the UltimateWealthPackage thru my own page. (I’m waiting to see if they take it all back.)
After seeing everything for what it was, I cancelled with midPhase (losing the $21.something for the domain name – for which I normally pay only $5.99.) Then I got a refund from ClickBank for the LOJ+VIP, the SE submission and for UWP.
Now here is the ironic part. I saw another page – http://www.undergroundcashsecret.com/ – which came off as a similar deal. I should have looked for http://www.undergroundcashsecretwebsites.com/, but I didn’t. So I ordered it. Sure enough, it was almost a carbon copy of UWP except for the pitch page – you really should listen to the story that guy came up with. Knowing that after 8 weeks I’d have no recourse thru ClickBank, I wondered what would happen if I emailed undergroundsecret for a refund. After doing so, I got the following replay:
‘Please note you must use the program for a minimum of 8 weeks as stated in the guarantee in order to be eligable for a refund…. As a bonus I have also included access to 3 other products which normally sell for a combined $129.85. You can access these products for free as a thank you.
(I removed the links so as not to jepordize this blog.)
–Ultimate Wealth Package–
http://www.ultimatewealthpackage.com/link
(Yes, the complete deal – that I had bought and ‘returned’ earlier – with the same backend free-vs-pro website and SE submission.)
–Paid Survey Program–
http://www.paidsurveyprogram.com/link
–Instant Money Vault–
http://www.instantmoneyvault.com/link
–Adwords Elite–
http://www.adwordselite.com/link
In a couple of days, I will email ClickBank for a refund. If I actually waited 8 weeks and sought a refund from undergroundsecret.com, what do you think would happen – LOL.
Morris
Hey Morris thanks for the comment. Sorry you had to go through all that. I and others visiting this site appreciate all the information you posted. I hope you get your refund.
I like reading your reviews. I am thinking about purchasing Profit Lance which I read about in another one of your reviews.
As for Ultimate Wealth Package – I too purchased their pckage – back in June 2007. Witnin a month I got half a refund, but still had access to the members area.
I kept my midphase web hosting, and with it (using the site creator within the midphase control panel) I created http://body-mind-soul.net, as well as (in the same control panel) http://earningmoneyontheweb.com
The free webpage (pro version) that came with my Ultimate Wealth Package purchase is still in my control panel, and I changed it into this http://earningmoneyontheweb.com/workfromhome/
I got rid of the original sites on that free webpage and added other ones. Instead of using google adsense I added Clickbank ads (from downloadsonline), and then receive a commission anytime someone clicks on those ads and makes a purchase.
Ultimate Wealth Package, by the way, no longer exists. They have either been kicked out of Clickbank for violating terms of service. Or just ended it on their own. When you go to ultimatewealthpackage.com a new website pops up very similar to ultimatewealthpackage if you look at the pop ups that appear when you try to leave. But I emailed them asking what happened to the members area of Ultimate Wealth Package and they said they bought the website from Mark Warren and that they have no connection with him. Maybe he was a fictional character to begin with. I don’t know.
Ed
I appreciate your honest, thorough reviews.
If anyone here does end up getting a free Mark Warren Website, and then upgrades by signing up with Midphase, it is not as though you are stuck with the free Mark Warren Website as your default web page if you know how to change things around in the control panel.
The website I built after signing up with Mark Warren Websites, and joining Midphase, is here: http://body-mind-soul.net
I kept my free Mark Warren Website but removed it from my main default page and changed it to this http://earningmoneyontheweb.com/workfromhome/ (I purchased a second domain name, but it is still in the same control panel in a different folder).
Some of the links on my original free website became obsolete (and UltimateWealthPackage.com no longer exists -not even in Clickbank.)
Initially after signing up for the pro version of Mark Warren Websites you are given the option of using your name as the domain name of your website. Then if you upgraded further and purchase web hosting through Midphase then you are finally able to create you own domain name. BUT when I created mine ( body-mind-soul.net ) initially that was exactly the default address of the free web page I received with Mark Warren Websites. So I had to change everything around and finally came up with the website I have today.
I have had good experiences with Midphase and they have a site creator tool and several templates to choose from etc.
I purchased another domain http://earningmoneyontheweb.com and it is in the same control panel in its own folder.
Unfortunately being new to affiliate marketing since mid June my total earnings since then have been about $100.
Another unfortunate thing is I have not seen one penny yet from my Clickbank account because the rules say you can’t get paid your check until 5 different credit card numbers (from different people purchasing) are found in your account. PayPal and echeck purchases don’t count as a credit card number.
Hi Ed thanks for the compliment and feedback. I like what you did with your site. Smart move in changing it.
don, where is my benifit, for monthy,you contect me ,last october,25th,2007. i pay my check account $96.90,but i didn”t nothing money,you told me,my cridet is $180.00. please sent me money,as soon as possible. I need to use in this x.mas. thank, kyi moore
It is not a comment. It is kind assistance I require from you.Can you help me to download “kompoZer” editing sofware. I am unable to download it. Dowloaded latest files are curropted it says
Thank you.
Wilfred
Hi Wilfred,
I would recommend Alleycode. Its pretty popular now and I think a bit easier to use than kompozer. Alleycode.com
I want my money back for all I have purchased though undergroundsecret.
i wish i had found your website first,before mark warrens, it could have saved my money and my brain. thanks james tn.
james, I didnt know that mark warrens site is still active. Sorry that you had to deal with this. The truth is the info in this post might be a bit outdated as its two years old already. I would have to re-read it to be sure.
Hi I payed for the underground cash secrets its quite useful for me but i paid $40 dollars then it says vip membership earn thousands more for only $30 dollars but when i declined and went into members area it came up with we givern you vip status for free.
Thanks for the info on how to make my own website
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