Profit Lance: What’s Inside Part III and My Thoughts
[Click here for an updated review on Profit Lance – January 2008]
In my previous review post, I failed to cover all the interesting aspects of the Profit Lance program. In this post I would like to finally cover some of the other great things about the program and some of the things I have issues with.
So let me continue from where I left off in my last post and get straight to the other components that I feel are kinda cool.
Task Manager
To help you move ahead with your online money making plans and cover some ground in this program, there is a Task Manager built in for this purpose with examples and instructions on how to use it.
When you click on the task manger link you’ll see this window:
The great thing about this task manager is that all your content is saved online in the Profit Lance system. Every time you log on to the program and visit your task manager you’ll see the items you’ve created tasks for listed. You can also modify the information to record your progress towards completing your ultimate goals for each task you’ve created. Like any task manager, your success depends on how well you take advantage of this feature. Setting clear tasks and goals, whether or not you decide to use the included feature, is key to an overall success strategy.
Profit Lance Niche Research Center
The next cool feature is the Profit Lance Niche Research Center. Its best to use the product owner’s own words to describe this tool.
It is a research tool that allows you to compile statistical information in niche markets with a view to evaluating their potential exploitation for profit. You gather information from search engines, discussion groups, keyword bids, blog search engines and article directories and use the information as a whole to decide whether a niche market is ripe or not. This tool is to be used in conjunction with some of the tutorial lessons.
Like the Task Manager, this tool is a separate feature included in the profit lance program. When you click on the ‘pLNC’ at the top of your main Profit Lance page, the program will open a new window. As the product owner mentions above, the tutorials and projects in the ‘Project’ section describe how to effectively use this tool. One great thing about this tool that I really liked was the “Niche Market Profit Calculator’.
This calculator will calculate your net profit based on the number of people who will click on your ads and actually purchase a product through your site, the costs for you to advertise your site on Google or Yahoo, and the amount of commission or payment you receive for each product you either promote or sell. Descriptions on each component and explanations of the results are provided on the same page right below the calculator.
Profit Lance Blog
And finally the last component that I am impressed with is the Profit Lance private blog. Its this part of the program that Mr. Andrews can in a way communicate with members. The blog is updated regularly with new, useful, and sometimes important information.
My Issues
As many people are aware, there are websites all over cyberspace promoting Profit Lance as the real deal. Many of these websites are actually part of the program and are designed for you to learn how to advertise and make money online through affiliate commissions.
I dont really have a problem with this because the product happens to be good and the owner claims to actually have reviewed the other items on these websites however I do have issues with the way some of the people are going with this.
Just yesterday I came across a site promoting profit lance that had this at the top:
Don’t buy anything until you have read my report…
I expose some popular scams and also shows how over a series of months I managed to create a sizeable monthly income.
What he’s doing is taking advatage of the strategies of the course to pull off another “Danny’s Scam Review”. The title of his site suggests that he provides information on products that are scam free however Profit Lance is the only product on his site. When you visit his main site you get a HTTP 403 Forbidden.
He also has the same bogus update that you’ll find on Danny’s-Scam-Review.com:
The product’s price hasn’t changed since it was launched in January and he’s using a similar Javascript to display the date when you visit his site.
Just to clarify this person above is not promoting Profit Lance using one of the training sites created for that purpose. He created his own site. I’m just wondering if he took advantage of the skills taught in the Profit Lance course to falsely promote the product.
Now let’s get back to the websites provided by the Profit Lance course. As I stated above, these websites are designed mainly for training purposes to help people learn how to use adwords and make money of affiliate sales. While you could definitely make money using these sites, people focusing on only that aspect of the course are essentially focusing on short term gains.
Making affiliate commissions with these sites by selling Profit Lance to people who visit your site after seeing an Adword ad on a Google search result is not a long term money making strategy. Mike Andrews makes this very clear in the product that marketing his pre-made websites and making money of affiliate commissions is really only for training purposes. If you plan on purchasing the Profit Lance system just to market the Profit Lance product and make affiliate commissions then you missed the point of the course.
The program is designed solely to help people stand on their own two feet when it comes to making money online. However, you will not learn from the program if you just jump in to make money off affiliate commissions. Why? Because that’s what everyone who bought the program is doing. If this is what Mike wanted people to do then why would he bother educating people on Clickbank, Adsense, building traffic, adwords, writing articles, and so on. He could have easily put together a simple website like Mike Warren’s websites or Daves Cool Little website and showed you how to make money that way.
There are several factors involved in Profit Lance being a success for you. First of all, the effort and time you put into the program will directly affect your level of success. I could just say upfront that there are plenty of people who would easily drop the program after the initial excitement wears off. A lot a people will be gung ho at first but then slowly but surely lose interest. It’s like that with any course that requires you to really put work into it. A good example would be an exercise or weightloss program. The best ones require you to dedicate a couple hours a week in order for you to make it work. Many people who make New Year resolutions to become fit or lose weight often sign up at the local fitness center only to drop out after a week or two. They simply lose interest.
If you are looking for a get rich quick fix then I suggest you avoid Profit Lance. You’ll end up becoming frustrated at how long its taking to make money and give up. On the other hand, if you decide to give up then just request a refund from Clickbank. This way you’ll only have wasted your time and not your money. But dont expect to a find a program that’s going to offer you mega wealth with minimal effort. Unless you’ve got experience such a thing doesn’t exist. If your interested in the program then click here to visit Profit Lance. Please note, the link is an affiliate referral link.
[If you haven’t done so already, click here for an updated review on Profit Lance – January 2008]
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Skills are what Mike teaches, you can make quick money fast, but, I wantted to train and LEARN what I am doing. I am so glad that I came across the Profit Lance System. Mike is an incredible teacher, who is a REAL genuine, person with integrity! Skills are what a person learns, for LONG term training and results…..
Thanks Mike
Hi christine, Welcome. Are you making money through with Profit lance aside from promoting the program? I’m just curious. I’m interested in hearing how people are making money with the program.
At the moment Ari, I am working on building web sites, and learning, signed up with Commission Junction, Platinum Partner, partner gaming, perfomics affiliates, and a few others…I am making money from promoting thru, http://mommakesmoneyonline.com I am a hairdresser FULL time, I work 6 days a week, we just opened our new Salon 3 weeks ago. SO everything is on the back burner atm. I found out quickly with the course and talking to Mike I had way too much going on. I pulled some of my sites, and I am not even really promoting or anything right now. But, I check my clickbank account some days I sell, then a few days go by nothing, then some days I sell another. With no effort. The course sells it self really. I am pretty much a 120% person, and have had to WAIT and learn first. I am working on about 10 diffrent sites right now. Making a Store front, and golf site. I am soooo busy that I do not get alot of time to work on it. I HOPE this will slow down for me. I know that the ideas I have and what I am learning from the Profit Lance course will profit me. (From the little time I have to spend training) The sites should be finished sometime soon. I am very meticulous, and these sites take me forever because I am so anal! lol So far, I am making money from promoting The Profit Lance Course and a little from adsense. I hope to have a better report for you soon. I just need a few days off in a row, and I could probally finish them all.
How Are you making money online, if I may ask?
Regaurds
I’m not. At least not yet.
Hello Ari,
Thanks for the info regarding the Profit Lance. I am thinking about joining the program and I was researching about it. It seems that even if I don’t end up making any $$ with it I will at least have the opportunity to learn something. I’ll come back to read through your site.
Thanks again.
A WEALTH of information. If you purchase the course, take your time. Mihalis, well worth the money. Good Luck!~
Being an honest person, that is my nature and I can’t change that, I always wanted to learn how you can really make money on the web without just having to get other people to buy what you just bought, which on most cases it was nothing anyways. It was just the membership, if you can call it that, to that club that sells nothing of substance really. It seems that the Profit Lance satisfies this requirement.
Christine, I checked out your website and I also went to your link for your other websites. Great variety there, from cars to baby stuff to acne. Are all these the result of learning/implementing the Profit Lance methods?
Hi Mihalis,
Sorry for not responding to your earlier comment. As for joining the program, there is a lot of information you could learn from the course however, I have been speaking to people who have been making money with the program and making money involves a fair amount of work. Its really a marketing course that shows you how to use various online tools to market products in under-exploited niches. While he does provide websites that you could use to market the Profit Lance program, thats really not the way anyone is going to make any real money. So I have no clue what I want to sell or promote and I dont have the time to build a website and whatever else is necessary to implement his techniques. Like I said before, its a fair amount of work.
What Christine is doing is simply promoting the Profit Lance program. That’s affiliate marketing. I tried to do that myself but I just couldnt write the kinda stuff that you see all over the place promoting these type of products. You know, the websites telling you how successful they are because of this and this product and if you buy it you’ll make money too. The money they are making is from selling you the product. Not from anywhere else really except in rare cases.
And finally, the websites you that you saw linked from Christine site are Adsense ready websites. You get these sites when you sign up with the profit lance program, however dont expect to make any money from them. I have written about these adsense ready websites extensively in the past. My first product review was such a product.
See these posts:
Adsense Ready Websites: What are they and what do people say about them
Important information about turnkey Adsense ready websites and Googles duplicate content filter
My experience with Adsense ready websites
Thanks again Ari.
Ari:
Any idea on Average Joe Package?
Best,
Hi Shahin,
someone else just asked me about that program. I dont know anything about it. I’ll have to take a look at it when I get a chance.
Hi,
I happened to visit this blog by accident. The comments on Profit Lance is very detail and honest. Keep up the good work, Ari!
Personally, I have tried both the Profit Lance and Average Joe Income and would like to leave my comments.
I feel that the Profit Lance system is a very good course suitable for beginners and intermediate affiliates. The only thing that I disliked about the course is that it is overloaded with too much information that are not really needed. Examples are the 3rd party ebooks.
As for Average Joe Income, I think it is only suitable for beginners with no background about affiliate marketing at all. The course is not for intermmediate and advance affiliate marketers.
So if you are looking at the long term benefits, I think that you should buy Profit Lance instead.
In fact, I have come across a course that is better than both Profit Lance and Average Joe Income. It is The Affiliate Allstar by Aaron Johnson. The product is not sold through Clickbank so I think many of you have not heard about it.
What I like about the course is that the author explains his techniques in a direct and straightforward manner (as opposed to Profit Lance which can be overelaborated sometimes) which saves you a lot of time. The language of the e-book is written in a very polished manner. The e-book is also very well organized. Customer support is the best that I have experienced together with the Average Joe Package. My e-mails were all promptly replied by the author himself in a clear and concise manner.
The shortcomings about the course: A few sections are not explained in sufficient details eg. FTP, how to write a good ad and there is a chapter on “casino affiliate” which I do not like from a moral point of view.
You can visit The Affiliate Allstar here:
http://tinyurl.com/2arlv7
(Note: the link is an affiliate referral link shorten with tinyurl. The original affiliate referral link was too long)
In summary, my ratings for the 3 courses:
1. The Affiliate All star: 9/10
2. Profit Lance: 8/10
3. Average Joe Income: 7/10
Hope this helps.
Thanks!
Hey John,
Great comment and thanks for the information. I agree with you regarding profit lance. The part of the course that I am finding interesting and useful are the projects and niche center, as opposed to the other parts you’ve mentioned. The thing about profit lance that people have to be aware is that you still need to do tons of work to make money. The course teaches how to find the right nich market and advertise appropriately but then people need to decide what niche they are going to attack and what are they going to market. Then you need to build the appropriate sites and quality content. Its definitely work. I have to say that I am learning a lot from the program.
As for the affiliate allstar, I’ve heard good things about the program. I will write a review on it once I’ve tested it.
Curious~
What IYO is the diffrence between Allstar and Profit lance?
I notice that the Alstar affilliate is also giving away those ebooks. IS that a swoose to buy the package thru your site? Because those are also given to those scammed upgrding to a VIP of the Ultimate Wealth package..
Hi rommo..
I also bought the Profit lance system about 4 months ago, and i felt it was a worthy investment! I’ve made money from that program by promoting referral signup services, as well as from the program itself.. What i like most about the system is that it really gives you very practical, hands on steps to implement PPC campaigns, article marketing etc, and also for you to practice with the premade sites and Adsense package…
However, the only downside is like you all mentioned..There’s too big a chunk of info especially for newbies to absorb. But it took me some time before i got the hang of the navigation.
I currently make money from the course through forums, and article marketing.
By the way, i also bought a Keyword research software that has helped me greatly with cutting costs for my PPC campaigns, and because i’m into article marketing, the software also does auto-generate quality articles based around my keywords..saving me lots of time..So i thought that along with what I’ve learnt in Profitlance, the tool will be very helpful for your campaigns too. It’s called Keyword Elite, and you can view my review here.
Yups..I wish you all the best to all your marketing efforts.. and i hope we can continue to share tips with one another!
John Leow
Hi john, thank for the comment. I am happy profit lance has been a success for you. I actually havent had time to get through the first half of the program so I dont know yet what it would have done for me.
As for the keyword elite tool, I tried to do some research on it. I came up with a discussion on it a Digital Points forum. Not too many people felt really positive about the program. Certainly not to justify the price. The interesting thing is, those people who liked the program offered links to their review. As it turned out their review was really more of an affiliate link than an honest review. I would have to say the same thing about your review. You didnt really provide an appropriate review for the product. It seemed more like a review to make an affiliate sale.
Here is the page from Digital Point forum. There are arguments on both sides.
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=69742&highlight=keyword+elite+reviews&page=2
Hey ari awesome work you are doing here I like the way you set up this place to monetize I have been thinking of doing this for awhile by far this is the best setup I have ever seen.You make the others look Like they are in preschool with theirs.Got a quick question for you because I can see you are on top of your business.Would you check out these programs and let me know if you have any thing on them.All of them are at
http://www.HomeBusinessReview.Org
I would greatly appreciate it.One more question do you actually purchase those programs to get screen shots like that?Or did they give them to you for the review..Anyways really just wanted to say you do an awesome job I would call you a mentor before most of these wannabes saying they can teach you but for me seeing is believing because you can talk about doing something all day long and never acomplish anything because you did not do nothing LOL!Once again GREAT WORK!
John Kohr
Hi John,
Thanks for the compliments. I really appreciate it.
To answer your second question first, Some of the products with the screen shots I have purchased while others I have reviewed their product based on the content of their site.
For example, I bought profit lance because I was told by many people that it was a legit product. So the screenshots come from the members area. The same would apply to moneyfromhome.com.
If the product is lousy then I just review it and ask for a refund.
Now with Mark Warren Websites and Daves Cool Little Website I didnt need to buy to see that it was a bogus product. I just did tons of research on the products.
As for your first question, HomeBusinessReview.Org lacks the same credibility as Mark Warren Websites. The reviews on the products there are not honest. The whole site is a ‘get rich quick’ product just to make money solely on affiliate commissions. In fact the site is identical to a Mark Warren website. Google does not index these sites because of its duplicate content filter. So no one would ever find a site like it through a search engine.
I wouldnt be surprised if all the products on that site are completely worthless. Stay away from a product that has a bogus review unless you have done proper research.
hi ari,
i am a newbie in internet marketing,..i am planning to purchase PROFIT LANCE but thne i recieved an email from profit lance promoting this kind of software(google assassin).
I searcehd the web and found out the creator of day job killer and google assassin is the same.
Why is profit lance promoting google assassin?
I was just confused
joel, that’s a good question. You should email Mike from profit lance and ask him yourself. Seriously. People told me that when they had questions they emailed him and he replied.
The truth is I am not sure what email you are receiving from profit lance. If its the sign up one on the home page of the site then I would suggest to avoid those altogether. They usually have nothing to do with the product.
Ari, That’s great advice… Mike is great about responding to emails and questions.
I was a bit baffled also about why, but he I wonder if it was even him that is promoting that.
Ari is there a way that a person can use Profit Lance name and yet hide the true email address?
I have not emailed and asked Mike, I just ignored the email myself.
Though Christine has seen this comment already
I am just double posting for others to read.
Hi Paul,
Ari said it would be ok if I posted here.
I have been building businesses (offline and Online) for close to 20 years. I have been quite succesfull.
I recently began working on a Direct Marketing project, and I wanted to take a different approach, as opposed to the annoying conventional one.
I was doing some research and I came across a site called The Renegade Marketer . Right off the bat I thought this is probably a scam (I am a skeptic like Ari). Anyway after reading it through, I decided to buy the book (I figured ‘even if it end up being a scam I can handle loosing $67).
I read the 143 page book within 1 day. There was no subtlety no BS. Just straight useful information. Though I was looking at it from a Network Marketing aspect, it can be applied to any business.
The Author Ann Sieg, came up with a great approach – Give Free + Sell valuable educational information to help people build their business, and they will keep coming back for more, and eventually if you do sell them a product of some sort they do so because you have EARNED their trust.
She even created an impressive 2 tiered affiliate system (which is included in the book purchase) that lets you keep all the information of the leads that you generate from marketing her book.
If you are doing well with your business already, I think that her book and affiliate system will take you even further.
If you are skeptical (as any smart business person is) there is a sign up on the site for a free ebook called The 7 Great Lies of Network Marketing
Anyway let me know what happens. I would be interested in your feedback.
All the best,
Rob
HI EVERYONE,
I am a new member of profitlance & cannot find in the members area how to contact them.
Can anyone tell me how to do this from the members area?
I can tell you this though, it is a wealth of information, videos with step by step instructions, access to special tools and websites, shows you how to set up accounts & everything it sends you to is free.
It is also a “one time purchase” price with a lifetime subscription with no hidden additional costs & the members area is updated on a regular basis with new info etc.
Thanks,
Gregg
Gregg, theres a contact us link on the profit lance website. Try that.
Ari,
I am also relatively new to Internet Marketing. Looking into the Profit Lance as an additional training resource to my membership with Wealthy Affiliate. WA has been fairly good as a resource.
Do you have any cons to WA or MySilent team?
I am very keen on purchasing the Profit Lance program and your great information has helped to make me feel that it is a safe and worthy purchase.
Thank you,
Jeromy
I really dont know anything about the Wealthy Affiliate program. I have been meaning to look into it. I am getting the feeling that a lot of these programs are the same. If you are using the program then its possible that Profit Lance might not help much more. I am assuming WA talks about clickbank and how to use it to make money. You could always give Profit lance a try and see if you like it. theres is a money back guarantee from clickbank.
Hi Ari,
Thanks for your fast reply! I agree, to a point, they are likely all very similar. Obviously we all know there are some pretty shabby products and services out there, which I suppose is how many of us have found a way to this great web blog of yours.
I am very curious to purchase Profit Lance. I have done quite a bit more research and have really found very little bad said about it. It seems the only things that ‘turn people off’ is the pre built sites and the overload of ‘bonuses’. But the training material is raved about. I think this is good site to purchase access to, a good resource for most any marketer, or up and coming marketer.
Wealthy Affiliate is similar in that they have well structured training materials and videos. They also have an active user forum with some pros that feed out a lot of good tips, web hosting, Site Rubix Web Builder, job board and a bunch of research tools. They offer a good service, but @ $30/month. I feel as though I pulled value from the site in the two months I have been with them.
Another site that offers training and pro guidance has been formed by Jim Cockrum and a team of other Internet Marketers, many with a dominate background in eBay. This ‘school’, My Silent Team, is geared towards internet marketing and leveraging eBay with affiliate related products/services. I had thought to join them for awhile too. My thought being studying the different steps/instructions each gives and pulling methods and process’s from each as applicable.
Ultimately the goal for all of us in the Affiliate/Internet Marketing Industry is to figure out the most effective way to establish a permanent and fruitful presence online. We have to be careful not to get ripped off, but at the same time benefit from solid and useful instruction and training, if it is from a good source. My research efforts, which have been extensive, indicate these three are the top Quality training/resource centers available.
I have seen a fair bit of indication that Affiliate Allstar is well built too (I believe it is reference above).
Thanks for the great discussion Ari, I am bookmarking your site and look forward to future discussions. Finding a candid and honest source of information is GOLD for an online business.
My issue with profit lance is that you need to enter your email information before you could purchase the product. I think this might be a turn off for some people. I dont think that step should be necessary.
Profit Lance has enabled me to market on the internet. Using Adsense, Clickbank, forums, blogs, writing articles, press releases, creating one’s own website(s) as well as using the affiliate links and website templates that Profit Lance shows on their website. There is a ton of information to learn and it takes time to digest all of the information given (Learn and then Earn). The great thing is that once you’ve learned to promote other affiliate products and services, you now understand how to promote your own. Persistence is the key. If making money online required no effort, we would all sit back and rake in the money.
What is your favorite part about profit lance as opposed to Affiliate Allstar?
Could you please tell me where the contact us link on the Profit Lance program is? I purchased the program, and understand the concept. I have a question about the affliate websites and I can’t find the contact us link anywhere!!
Never mind the last comment. Apparently I have to go back to the main page, there’s no contact link in the members area.
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Profit Lance is a good additional resource to WA. I’ve tried both programs extensively and personally I think offers a better introduction to keyword research and has much more videos.
It also has covers Adsense and other forms of online income streams.
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